Why Nextdoor’s founder moved again into the corporate C-suite

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Diane Brady: Management Subsequent is powered by the oldsters at Deloitte who, like me, are exploring the altering roles of enterprise management and the way CEOs are navigating this alteration.

Welcome to Management Subsequent, the podcast in regards to the altering guidelines of enterprise management. I’m Diane Brady. 

Nirav Tolia is co-founder and CEO of Nextdoor. That is his second stint at working that on-line platform the place you possibly can promote a sofa, report one thing or somebody unusual within the neighborhood, and simply join with others on a variety of subjects. His first stint as CEO led to 2018. He went on to be an investor, a decide on Shark Tank, and different endeavors. However earlier this 12 months, he got here again to the CEO slot with a plan to make some daring adjustments. Take a pay attention.

[Interview begins.]

Hello, all people. I’m right here with Nirav Tolia, who’s the chairman, co-founder, and CEO of Nextdoor Nirav, nice to see you. You’re truly again for the second time. So let’s begin there. In Could, you determined, you recognize what? I’m coming again. Why?

Nirav Tolia: Effectively, it’s nice to be again to the corporate that I began, however I by no means actually left. I simply was the CEO for the primary 9 years, after which I used to be on the board for the final 5 and a half, and now I’m again as CEO. However, Diane, thanks for having me. I’m thrilled to be again right here. I assume not likely again. That is the primary time. I’m thrilled to be again at Nextdoor.

Brady: So inform me you’re on the board. Had been you sitting there simply consistently feeling like, effectively, that’s not a call I’d make? Or was it, there should have been some eureka second the place you thought, You realize, what I actually need to do is be again in that seat the place I might be making the selections?

Tolia: It was way more serendipitous. And I’d say as somebody who has been a founder and CEO for over 20 years, the very last thing that I’d do as a board member is sit and criticize the present CEO. I didn’t prefer it when folks did that to me. So after I transitioned from being the CEO to a board member, I needed to be supportive and I used to be. It’s very lonely to be a CEO. It’s very troublesome to be a CEO. And naturally you possibly can second guess every thing. However until you’re truly working the corporate, until you’re within the particulars, until you have got all the knowledge at your disposal, you possibly can’t actually second guess what’s happening. And so I used to be sitting, watching, supporting, attempting to be useful, and we had an exquisite CEO throughout these 4 years. And Sarah [Friar, Nextdoor’s last CEO] is a tremendous individual and wonderful govt, however we felt like we would have liked to get again to constructing product. And constructing product is what I’ve executed my total profession. It’s what founders usually do originally, and now we’re going to do it once more.

Brady: So let’s inform folks a little bit bit about Nextdoor. I believe, I actually realize it. I’ve been a member and I believe you’re, what, greater than 330,000 communities at this level? Give us a way of the scope. How ubiquitous are you?

Tolia: So Nextdoor is 14 years previous. We began the corporate in the summertime of 2010. It’s working in 11 nations now as a public firm. We’ve over 330,000 neighbourhoods throughout 11 nations all around the world. Within the U.S., 99% of neighborhoods use Nextdoor. Considered one of three households throughout the nation is on Nextdoor as effectively. So fairly ubiquitous. We consider ourselves, or no less than we aspire to be, the important neighborhood community. We’re a social media platform, however we’re social media that’s targeted on native, which is totally different than Fb, totally different than Instagram, totally different than X, or totally different than TikTok. We’re about constructing area people and we use a web-based mechanism to try this. However the magic of Nextdoor occurs whenever you use Nextdoor to get into the true world, meet together with your neighbors and create a greater neighborhood for everybody.

Brady: That’s true. Like a few of the questions are issues like, Who’s that man that retains hanging out by the automotive on Third Road? That’s a few of the questions…

Tolia: It’s extra utility-centric. It’s discovering a service supplier. It’s asking for assist discovering a misplaced canine. It’s coming collectively in a time of disaster, whether or not that’s climate or crime-centric. It’s the sorts of issues that you just do whenever you get along with the folks that you just reside round. And particular issues occur. When neighbors begin speaking, good issues occur.

Brady: So let’s go to what’s subsequent and get again to that founders mentality we’re speaking about. The very first thing I at all times consider with a founder or co-founder on this case is imaginative and prescient. So what’s your imaginative and prescient for the subsequent chapter?

Tolia: Effectively, let me return. So the imaginative and prescient for Nextdoor was that expertise might play a robust function in bringing folks collectively regionally. And the corporate was based on this premise that we’ve began to lose contact with our native communities. There’s this excellent ebook written by Robert Putnam referred to as Bowling Alone, which is in regards to the decline of neighborhood in America. So we used to bowl collectively. We was in bowling leagues. That was a technique that we’d come collectively in our native communities. Now we bowl alone…

Brady: I assume everyone seems to be a winner whenever you bowl alone. There’s that.

Tolia: Effectively, they might win at bowling, however they lose at that social cohesion that creates so many nice outcomes for society, whether or not it’s stronger household items, extra assist within the neighborhood, much less loneliness. These are the sorts of issues that occur in robust native neighborhoods. In order that was the unique imaginative and prescient for the corporate in the summertime of 2010. And the reality is, we haven’t executed totally on that imaginative and prescient. We might by no means execute totally on the imaginative and prescient. So I ran the corporate for the primary 9 years. I used to be gone for five-and-a-half years, and after I got here again I noticed, together with everybody else round Nextdoor, the potential for Nextdoor has at all times been wonderful. If you inform somebody about Nextdoor the primary time their eyes mild up. They suppose to themselves, I do wish to be linked to my area people. I do wish to really feel nearer to my neighborhood. I can use the utility of figuring out and counting on my neighbors. However then you definately use the product and also you notice it’s good, however it’s not nice. And so the most important a part of the imaginative and prescient now could be to say we’ve this wonderful potential. And it’s the concept behind Nextdoor, which is can you employ an app on a smartphone to really feel nearer to the place you reside? The imaginative and prescient is to make that app higher in order that it’s a magical expertise. If you open it, you do truly really feel nearer to your neighbors.

Brady: I do know you’ve received AI-enabled gross sales now, I used to be studying about that, however let me begin with the truth that that is a web-based expertise which by its very nature would appear to bolster the loneliness you’re speaking about. Do you attempt to facilitate extra of a web-based to offline neighborhood gathering? I imply, how do you create the social cloth via a platform?

Tolia: It’s an incredible query. Every part about Nextdoor is on-line to offline as a result of the sorts of issues that you just do on Nextdoor you possibly can solely do offline. So you possibly can ask for a babysitter advice. You possibly can ask for assist since you want a sofa and somebody’s going to provide away a sofa. These are issues that don’t truly resolve on-line. The one technique to resolve them is to enter the true world. And so, not like quite a lot of social media platforms the place you possibly can scroll mindlessly for hours and hours and hours, if Nextdoor is profitable, it should get you off of your telephone and into your neighborhood, into bodily house.

Brady: So whenever you left, what made you determine after 9 years it was time to maneuver on?

Tolia: The corporate was truly going extraordinarily effectively and it was clear that we have been going to have the ability to go public, which was a tremendous milestone and proceed to develop. And in the previous few years earlier than I left, that’s after we launched in most of those nations. So the corporate was international. It was effectively on its technique to being a public firm. And I noticed that, primary, I wanted to spend extra time with my younger children. I had a six-year previous, a four-year previous and a two-year previous. And quantity two, the subsequent stage of the corporate, which is de facto about scale, can be higher served by a extremely skilled and expert operator. And that’s why we employed Sarah Friar. It felt like we’d received the Tremendous Bowl, we’d employed such a tremendous govt. And she or he did, in reality, scale the corporate, take it public, and put it on this great spot for me to return again and attempt to evolve the product.

Brady: So now that it’s of this greater platform, basically, how does it really feel to be again within the CEO function, as a result of  it hasn’t been that lengthy?

Tolia: Effectively, 5 years has appeared like an eternity as a result of even a 12 months as a CEO, it’s type of like canine years. So I really feel like I took 5 years off though I used to be working. Yeah, it’s type of a trip as a result of I grew to become an investor.

Brady: You have been a Shark Tank decide, I do not forget that.

Tolia: I received to be a shark on Shark Tank. I moved to Italy for 2 years with my household, so we lived overseas. So I received to do quite a lot of issues that you just don’t usually get to do whenever you’re working an organization. However now coming again, it’s a privilege however it’s not trivial. And that call, as you talked about on the very starting, it could seem to be it was intentional, however it was way more serendipitous. I by no means thought that I’d come again to Nextdoor as an operator. I by no means thought that I’d return to being a CEO. I used to be actually having fun with being with my children, who are actually 12, 10 and eight, being with my spouse, co-parenting, having a considerably extra regular life that you just don’t actually have whenever you’re a CEO. However finally that factor that you just create and we talked a little bit bit in regards to the founder’s mentality, I wish to get into that, that factor you create as a founder, it’s virtually like one other baby. And so when you have got an opportunity to go be a part of that baby’s life once more and be influential once more in elevating that baby, it was one thing that I couldn’t keep away from. I used to be speaking to my spouse about it actually on the finish of the 12 months earlier than we determined that I’d come again and I mentioned, You realize, this isn’t going to be nice for work-life steadiness. It’s not going to be nice for us co-parenting our youngsters the best way that we’ve. It’s going to be very demanding. It’s a public firm.

Brady: She’s a senior govt, too.

Tolia: She’s the president of Shondaland, so she has a giant, vital job as effectively. And finally she mentioned, You realize, I really feel like should you have been in your deathbed and also you thought to your self, I had this chance to return to Nextdoor and take it to the subsequent degree however I didn’t do it, that may be a remorse. And we don’t need regrets, so simply go do it. We’ll determine the remaining.

Brady: However you’re a serial entrepreneur. That’s what’s attention-grabbing. I’m eager about Epinions and all of the totally different … So usually with a serial entrepreneur, I’d suppose you’d transfer on to the subsequent factor. And so perhaps the subsequent factor is inside this ecosystem proper now and also you’ve talked a little bit bit about that. Let’s speak in regards to the expertise of getting been on the board and the way which will have shifted your mentality as a CEO. I do know you simply introduced Marissa Mayer onto your board and also you have been, I believe, worker quantity 84 or one thing, is that proper?

Tolia: Yeah, at Yahoo! So lengthy earlier than she was CEO.

Brady: Lengthy earlier than she was CEO. However that have of being on a board and seeing Nextdoor via that prism, which is a bit totally different than being chairman, has that modified the best way you have a look at the corporate?

Tolia: It’s an incredible query and it’s an incredible query, significantly because it pertains to even this concept of coming again and seeing one thing with contemporary eyes. So most of my profession I’d been an entrepreneur, a founder, and a CEO. Nextdoor was the third firm that I’d been fortunate sufficient to begin and be CEO for. So all I’d actually executed was begin corporations and function them. After I left Nextdoor, not solely was I on the board of Nextdoor, I joined this VC agency, Hedosophia, which had been an investor in Nextdoor as govt chairman, I joined over 10 boards along with Nextdoor, and I grew to become an investor. I grew to become that person who I as CEO would look as much as after I was constructing my ….

Brady: Or get annoyed by, proper? You realize what I’d do…

Tolia: Look as much as. Look as much as. What I noticed is the function of an investor is totally different than the function of an operator. An operator has to get actually deep. An operator has to get actually targeted on the small print. An operator isn’t diversified of their considering. You’re eager about your drawback that you need to resolve. An investor must be way more broad. An investor, should you’re on a number of boards, these might be in several industries, they are often fully totally different corporations, totally different levels. And so for 5 years I used to be trying throughout the panorama, primarily eager about fintech corporations, shopper corporations, AI corporations. And it taught me quite a bit, not nearly these industries, however in regards to the other ways to run corporations and the way totally different leaders make use of totally different methods. So after I then got here again to Nextdoor six months in the past, I believed to myself, Wow, what an unimaginable blessing to have all the expertise and legacy information to grasp the small print…

Brady: It’s like an govt MBA.

Tolia: …however on the similar time that contemporary eyes. And so the mixture of being deep as a result of I’m the founding father of the corporate and I’ve been there for nearly 10 years, proper. And in addition be broad as a result of I’d been trying throughout the business, I’d executed Shark Tank, I’d lived in a unique nation. Yeah, these are experiences that basically impression you. And so what I’ve been attempting to do is carry that freshness again to Nextdoor whereas by no means forgetting the issues that made us particular within the first place.

Brady: Effectively, it’s attention-grabbing. I agree with you having that 30,000-foot view and that capability to attach the dots, initially, is de facto invaluable, as any individual who’s within the CEO function. What else did you study? I imply, are you able to be a little bit particular even a couple of explicit lesson or two that you just gleaned from that 5 years that you just’ve now utilized in your present iteration?

Tolia: Crucial lesson that I discovered was that typically you must take a step again and cease eager about all these particulars you’re attempting to get excellent to grasp the place the corporate must go long term. And so what I did as an operator, I used to be at all times on this, whether or not it was a quarterly grind or an annual planning grind, and also you’re attempting to make the numbers and also you’re attempting to do the issues that will not really feel quick time period, however they are surely quick time period, whereas throughout you, the world is evolving. And so when you’re evolving your organization and that’s all you’re actually targeted on, the world is evolving as effectively. And should you don’t harmonize these two issues, the evolution of your organization with the evolution of what’s happening outdoors, you’ll be stale.

So let’s take into consideration what occurred within the final couple of years. We had COVID. That was an enormous change. We now have this concept of place and geography that’s very totally different as people. We do business from home. We reside in additional distant locations. We journey extra regardless of the do business from home and the working in remoted locations. And so the world has actually modified. After I got here again to Nextdoor, I noticed that the product imaginative and prescient for Nextdoor had developed, however it had not developed in a up to date manner relative to how the world had developed. And the one manner that I might notice that was by being outdoors. If I’d been on the within, I by no means would have been there. In order that’s one very particular factor.

The opposite particular factor is, as I used to be sitting down to put in writing my first shareholder letter and I used to be considering to myself, Okay, it’s my first shareholder letter. I must make this authentically me and I wish to begin to talk what’s vital to me as a frontrunner and what can be vital to us as an organization. And I got here throughout this nice ebook referred to as Founder’s Mentality, and it resonated virtually identically with the best way that I used to be eager about coming again to the corporate. And there have been three details, and I wish to identify all three of them.

Brady: I’ve learn the ebook, truly.

Tolia: The primary is, yeah, having, having a founder’s mentality. And by the best way, I inform this to folks internally, having a founder’s mentality is not only the province of founders. It’s an strategy. It’s a mind-set. It’s a mind-set. And I firmly imagine that it may be utilized to any enterprise at any stage. And there are three keys. The primary is you need to have an rebel mission. So what does that imply? It’s essential care about altering the world, making it a greater place.

Brady: Rebel implies a little bit little bit of a revolution.

Tolia: Rebel implies that you’re not glad with the established order, and also you imagine that change is important, proper? In our case, we don’t like the truth that the social bonds that after made neighborhoods nice have eroded and we wish to carry these again. In order that mission is essential as a result of when it’s late at night time, after we’re drained, we don’t wish to put one other foot in entrance of the opposite, we keep in mind the mission, and that’s the emotional pull that retains us going.

Brady: In order that’s pillar primary.

Tolia: The second pillar is you need to have an obsession with the entrance line and an obsession with particulars. Now, what does that imply? As corporations get greater, management specifically will get additional and additional away from the shoppers, from the customers, from the small print that make a product nice. What do founders do? Precisely the other. They’re those which might be speaking with all the shoppers. They’re speaking with all of the customers. They’re the shoppers and the customers within the early days. And so, we with a founder’s mentality must get again to placing magic into the small print and the one manner you are able to do that’s to be obsessive about the entrance line. Which means everybody within the firm is a person, is a buyer, is somebody who’s eager about expectations and retaining these expectations excessive. And the one manner to try this is to know the small print. The third and closing a part of the founder’s mentality, you’ve received to have an proprietor’s mindset. What does that imply?

Brady: Fly economic system class.

Tolia: They spend each penny prefer it’s their very own.

Brady: That’s proper.

Tolia: They’re okay working weekends. They care deeply about each a part of the corporate as a result of it’s an extension of themselves. So this concept of being an proprietor, I imply, it’s humorous whenever you come again to an organization and it’s received tons of of individuals and areas world wide and you’ve got a course of for every thing. You may have expense stories, you have got budgets, and you’ve got planning. And on the finish of the day, folks really feel prefer it’s not their firm and also you wish to get again to creating it really feel prefer it’s their firm. They’ve management, not simply management, however duty. So, the mission, the small print and the proprietor’s mindset, should you carry that to an organization, I believe you are able to do magical issues.

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Brady: We’re coming into an period of innovation not like any we’ve witnessed earlier than. You all see it. The tempo of technological change is staggering, and it’s difficult for any chief to maintain up. We spoke with Jason Girzadas, the CEO of Deloitte US, which is the long-time sponsor of this podcast. Right here is his recommendation for leaders on learn how to navigate this new world.

Jason Girzadas: There’s in all probability nothing extra vital for CEOs, it doesn’t matter what group they’re main to essentially be eager about expertise’s impression on our workforce. It’s actually a operate of how do you concentrate on expertise in live performance together with your workforce? We at Deloitte speak about it because the age of with, the age of expertise together with your workforce, and actually embracing this concept of the co-dependency of expertise and the workforce. We’re additionally an atmosphere of a really tight workforce the place there’s a shortage of prime expertise and an elevated stress on the variety of prime expertise. That’s going to be the problem for organizations to display to prime expertise that they’ll develop and evolve the work that they do, working with main expertise in a really aligned manner. Lastly, it’s what prime expertise actually desires in a company is to study and develop and to be a part of a company that’s supportive of them truly embedding expertise of their work.

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Brady: Effectively, let me ask a little bit bit about a few of the unintended penalties of hyper native and I do know that really Nextdoor has addressed quite a lot of this. For instance, privateness. Not all of us [want everyone to] know, Hey, I’m happening trip. You realize, that might be a sign to for folks to rob your home. I do know you’ve addressed problems with typically bullying as a result of there are imply ladies and guys inside a few of these neighborhoods. What do you see as a few of the ache factors or friction that we’ve to handle each in our communities and by extension then, in your on-line communities, whether or not it’s polarization or simply creating that social cloth that perhaps has not been as robust because it was.

Tolia: What an incredible query. And it’s the case that we reside in an more and more divided world and we hope that Nextdoor might be one of many forces that goes towards that. Social media generally acts as a mirror to the world. So all of those social media platforms, whether or not it’s Nextdoor or Fb or Instagram and even X, the place you in all probability see a few of the most divisive …

Brady: An amplified mirror, maybe.

Tolia: Proper, and amplified issues. I believe there are two issues happening. The primary is folks wish to state their beliefs on these social platforms, and that’s not in regards to the platform, that’s about their beliefs. However the second piece is we are usually a little bit bit extra aggressive or antagonistic behind a keyboard versus in actual life. Now, let’s…

Brady: It’s the cloak of anonymity, isn’t it?

Tolia: I don’t imagine in any respect in anonymity. It’s an excellent level. I believe anonymity offers us an excuse to be the worst variations of ourselves. Whereas should you reveal somebody’s id, I believe there’s a further type of accountability. It’s a little bit bit like should you’re strolling round in a room and also you don’t know anybody, however you have got a reputation tag on and everybody else has a reputation tag on, you act in a different way than should you’re strolling round a room and nobody is aware of who you might be. So at Nextdoor, we did a few issues from the very starting to make it totally different. The primary is there’s completely no anonymity. We truly verified whenever you joined Nextdoor that you just lived on the tackle that you just mentioned that you just lived at and also you had to make use of your actual identify.

The second factor is issues like the place you reside and whether or not you’re on trip and who your children are, that’s at all times non-public on Nextdoor. And so we’ve executed a variety of issues on the techniques degree to make sure that perhaps the worst factor that may occur on Nextdoor is that folks disagree. I believe one of many actually difficult issues in at this time’s world is we haven’t discovered a manner or we’ve misplaced the power to debate totally different factors of view in a civil manner. It’s an previous expression, and I grew up in Texas, so perhaps it was a little bit bit extra quaint, however we used to say you possibly can disagree with out being unpleasant. Sadly, most social media platforms, whenever you disagree, you change into very unpleasant. We really feel like with Nextdoor, although, the chance is should you disagree with somebody and you find yourself being unpleasant, you might even see that individual in bodily house later that day. If you happen to disagree with somebody on X, you could not know the place that individual lives. Chances are you’ll by no means encounter that individual in the true world, however it’s totally different in a hyper native metropolis. So we attempt to use issues, like we’ve an AI factor referred to as the Kindness Reminder, the place should you’re posting one thing on Nextdoor and our synthetic intelligence figures out that it’s not a optimistic sentiment, we simply type of say, Hey, perhaps you wish to rephrase that.

Brady: No one sucks. Come on, change your phrase.

Tolia: We don’t wish to use that phrase. And it’s humorous as a result of after I take into consideration the creation of Nextdoor and basically constructing a person generated content material system the place the content material is created by all of our customers, we’re not creating the content material. So you need to construct the checks and balances within the system in such a manner that folks do wish to do the fitting factor. I believe it actually advantages me to be a dad or mum as a result of in some ways we’re doing the identical issues with our kids, proper? After I see my three boys battle with one another, proper, it’s not simply cease combating. It’s hey, if in case you have a unique viewpoint, learn to categorical it in a manner that’s constructive. Be a little bit extra empathetic. Hearken to the opposite viewpoint. And people are a few of the issues that we attempt to do on Nextdoor as effectively.

Brady: Stroll in one other man’s footwear or lady. We do reside in in our native communities. You’ve received folks which might be organizing protests, for instance, in regards to the Israel-Hamas conflict. You’ve received folks placing up Trump indicators on one garden and in Harris indicators throughout the road. Do you discover that that performs out in Nextdoor with regard to only the polarization of our communities? Are you seeing that?

Tolia: Effectively, communities themselves are usually extra homogenous than heterogeneous. So that you are likely to have extra in widespread together with your neighbors than much less in widespread. So I don’t suppose that it’s ceaselessly the case that you’d see the garden signal for a Democrat proper throughout the road from the garden signal of a Republican. However I’d be okay with that. I believe one of many issues that we’ve received to suppose deeply about, this isn’t simply Nextdoor, however that is that is our society as an entire, we’ve misplaced the power to debate totally different factors of view in constructive methods. And I fear for my youngsters that they may solely be embedded in the best way they see the world as a result of they’re not being uncovered to different factors of view.

Brady: That’s just like the echo chamber impact as effectively of social media.

Tolia: There are two items. One is the echo chamber, which is after I say one thing, I’m strengthened by folks similar to me. The opposite half is the price of silence. And that’s this concept, Why would I ever even expose myself? Why would I take the chance of stating one thing after I’m going to be attacked? And so you have got each the echo chamber and you’ve got the concern of participation. And as a substitute we have to discover a technique to say, look, we’re not going to agree on every thing, however can’t we create a stronger neighborhood if we’re capable of debate these issues in a manner that isn’t vitriolic or antagonistic? And we don’t have the reply at Nextdoor. Don’t get me incorrect. However I believe it’s one thing that more and more, from a coverage standpoint, we’ve traditionally mentioned you can’t debate nationwide politics on Nextdoor as a result of we’re a hyper native system. And if you wish to speak about native politics, okay, perhaps we’ve an open thoughts there. However the nationwide presidential race, what does that need to do together with your neighborhood? I believe more and more we have to rethink that. We have to suppose, are we tapping out when in reality, we have to educate folks learn how to have these concepts?

Brady: I educate debating, impromptu debating to center faculty children, and that’s referred to as advert hominem, the place you mainly assault the individual and never the argument. And I believe if we have been to reintroduce debating within the colleges the place you need to argue reverse factors of view and also you get judged in your capability to criticize an argument, not the individual, that may be a begin.

Tolia: I like that concept.

Brady: It might be a begin. It might be one thing Nextdoor helps. There you go.

Tolia: We actually shall.

Brady: The rest that that’s in your radar that you just wish to placed on ours proper now with regard to what’s subsequent for Nextdoor and even simply the way you’re viewing the panorama generally? I believe you’re addressing some ache factors that all of us take into consideration, which is the type of state of civics did the civic discourse, but in addition our communities. However what else are you eager about or enthusiastic about by way of what’s across the nook?

Tolia: Effectively, I like the phrase subsequent as a result of it’s in Nextdoor, clearly, However we’re calling the subsequent model of Nextdoor “next,” internally, that’s our code phrase internally. And what we’ve realized is after 14 years, it’s time for Nextdoor to not simply do what we’d consider as some extent launch within the software program world that’s going from 2.1 to 2.2. We’d like a model launch. We’d like 2.0 to go to three.0 or 3.0 to go to 4.0. And in order we take into consideration what’s subsequent for us, that’s the subsequent and hopefully one of the best model of Nextdoor. And it must be totally different. It may be the kinds of issues that we talked about. Serving to you discover a plumber or a babysitter, serving to you discover a misplaced canine, serving to you give away the items of furnishings you don’t want any extra, serving to you join with a pickleball participant in your neighborhood. All these fantastic issues about Nextdoor. However we predict that there’s a possibility to do much more, significantly round native info. If you concentrate on the erosion of native newspapers and different, the 5 o’clock information that we used to look at every single day. There’s a possibility for us to carry a few of that again. There’s a possibility for us to construct deeper neighborhood. And so what’s subsequent for us is we hope our largest chapter and finest chapter but.

Brady: Appears like a village inexperienced. I sit up for it. Thanks for becoming a member of us.

Tolia: Thanks for having me.

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